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The revolution builds housing in…..Mali
November 11, 2009
The Devil's Excrement
Observations focused on the problems of an underdeveloped country, Venezuela, with some serendipity about the world (orchids, techs, science, investments, politics) at large. A famous Venezuelan, Juan Pablo Perez Alfonzo, referred to oil as the devil's excrement. For countries, easy wealth appears indeed to be the sure path to failure. Venezuela might be a clear example of that.
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February 4, 2010 at 1:16 pm
what a shame!!!! hospitals in Venezuela short of any and all necessary medical instruments and minor items and this one is fulfilling third world countries’ needs. Another powerful reason for his losing next September.
November 17, 2009 at 4:35 pm
It stinks.. those houses, the airplane, what will we be hearing next?
November 17, 2009 at 9:52 am
God never made little green apples
It don’t rain in Indianapolis in the summer time…
and, Qadaffi says that Jesus was not the one crucified but a double…
and, the plane full of coke that crashed in mali was really sent by Uribe as part of his dirty war against our beloved leader…
November 17, 2009 at 6:21 am
I translated most of the text into Spanish and put some further information:
http://desarrollosostenibleparavenezuela.blogspot.com/2009/11/mali-y-hugo.html
November 16, 2009 at 11:19 am
ErneX, I just saw and wrote a post on it. La Esmeralda? Maiquetia? Vamos a ver.
November 16, 2009 at 10:22 am
An airplane from Venezuela crashed on Mali after dropping some cocaine
http://www.noticias24.com/actualidad/noticia/115786/se-estrello-en-mali-avion-proveniente-de-venezuela-tras-descargar-cocaina/
November 15, 2009 at 4:14 am
This ‘No more GWHE’ person is obviously the same lunatic who posts as Tosh, Chronically Clueless, Carlos, John, etc in other blogs. Wonder how much is la robolución bonita paying him/her with our money.
November 13, 2009 at 10:40 am
Petare? Petare is not what it used to be. We know for a year now that Petare is full of escualidos, posh people:
http://www.elchiguirebipolar.com/2008/11/ya-viene-petare-hills-90210.html
November 13, 2009 at 10:36 am
That article was from 2006.
November 13, 2009 at 10:35 am
no more GWEH, a.k.a. GIV, a.k.a. the son of Carl, a.k.a. brain-dead PSF:
I think we need more proof than just a photo. Have you considered the following?:
– The guys in Mali are just naming the Revolution in hopes that they will receive funding from Chavez.
An Advanced Google Search on Vheadline with keywords “housing” and “Mali” yielded the following:
During a visit to Mali (West Africa), Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez Frias has promised to send that country refined oil to the tune of $100 million per year.
The oil will be paid for mostly in bauxite, gold and other minerals produced in Mali.
The Venezuelan President made the announcement during a visit to a social housing project where he promised help in housing by sending materials with no strings attached, the only condition being to call the project “Bolivarian.”
Au contraire, my little PSF, Thugo told them to name it, which was his only condition for supplying materials.
Before you insult me think that if we are going to seriously attack the government, we need more proof than just a black and white photo.
Your apparent inability to utilize Advanced Google Search merits some insult. Perhaps you should be reported to your superiors for doubting the beneficence of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela and its solidarity with the oppressed people of the Third World- and Petare.
November 13, 2009 at 5:19 am
Geez, an official site of the Mali government (link above) says the school and those houses were financed by the Venezuelan government and this bloke keeps asking what proof there is.
It talks to a large extent on what Hugo is also promising the people from Mali.
Perhaps the site was hacked by the US intelligence agencies or by me and it is not true.
As I said: it is good Venezuelans help poorer people, they have done it for many decades already, but as Daniel says: this goes beyond that, Hugo just wants to portray himself as saviour of everything, up to the more distant part of the world and everything is crumbling down, in particular the country where he is the elected head of state and where he alone has more control than most other heads of states of their respective countries.
November 13, 2009 at 5:04 am
On Google there is a part of someone seen the project during a trip and mentioning, that Khadafhi is building mosques all over there and Hugo and the government of Venezuela did this project for the poor.
November 12, 2009 at 9:46 pm
no more gweh
let’s assume for the sake of the argument that indeed venezuela did not pay for all of these houses in mali. then why the billboard, clearly acknowledging the main donor? it could be france who also gives money to its ex colonies. show me the french billboard next…..
let’s push this further: is there a moral or ethical difference between venezuela paying for 100% or paying for only, say, 50%?
i do not know who you are, if cris, flunkie or whomever, but your arguments are always shot down all the same. wake up and see that chavismo is a fraud altogether and that focusing on some detail is not going to allow you to get off the hook or convince anyone. at least not on this page or related pages.
miguel is not discussing whether it is ethical to give houses in mali when our power outages are perhaps getting worse than those in bamako. this ship has sailed long, long ago. miguel is just illustrating how ridicule the regime has become and why it has started crumbling, with the crudest of examples on why chavez glory is more important than venezuela’s welfare. i suggest that you meditate on that a little bit.
November 12, 2009 at 6:09 pm
This was published in TalCual earlier in the week (seccion Por Mi Madre)
November 12, 2009 at 6:04 pm
That foundation receives no funds from anywhere other than our Govt.
November 12, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Handsomely? You must be chris then.
Read the pdf in French. If you can’t, look for a translator.
That page comes from the Mali government and it says all about what the Venezuelans are paying and what they get.
November 12, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Miguel, the link you provided does not say that Venezuela bank rolled the project. My point is that we need more than this to conclude that Venezuela is paying for everything. Venezuela (or the revolution) could have been paid handsomely for this (Think of Cuban doctors).
You guys get all upset at me and even insult me (that Chris thing did not go unnoticed). But we have to be careful to have all the duck in a row before we prove our point. Again, this, to me, is unconclusive evidence.
November 12, 2009 at 4:11 pm
There are loads of ugly things they could do:
1) pretend to be students and distribute leaflets saying things that would put us into trouble
2) send their thugs to attack us.
So people need to take this into account and come up with ideas to avoid those problems, always thinking one or two steps ahead.
Anyway, people should do it by appearing out of the blue, distributing and vanishing, doing it at the same time everywhere and having planned the next step
November 12, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Not Gweh, are you chris? Did you not read what we put here?
I put, among other thinks, a link to a Mali newspaper and one to a site
of the Mali government. Miguel now puts a link to the Venezuelan government itself. Now what kind of proof do you want? Tu mamá?
November 12, 2009 at 2:20 pm
I think we need more proof than just a photo. Have you considered the following?:
– The photo is doctored.
– The guys in Mali are just naming the Revolution as propaganda but have not received a penny from Chavez (Chavez still sells well in some parts of the world).
– The guys in Mali are just naming the Revolution in hopes that they will receive funding from Chavez.
Before you insult me think that if we are going to seriously attack the government, we need more proof than just a black and white photo.
November 12, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Great idea Deanna.
November 12, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Deanna, GREAT idea. I wonder who will pick up the ball and run with it?
November 12, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Dean and Kepler re the flyers: excellent suggestion. If it is done, it wouldn’t surprise me that they would be subject to arrest: “unauthorized distribution of information” or some such trumped-up charge.
November 12, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Chavez has sent US$300 million to Bolivia:
http://www.noticierodigital.com/?p=60103
November 12, 2009 at 11:17 am
Deaner,
Very right.
Simple flyiers would do.
They should go to the bus central stations as well.
I was a student at the Ucv and would go to my home town every forenight or so on a bus from La Hoyada.
I am sure that kind of bus stations are a good point to start. The poor use them. The commies used to go there to distribute their stuff in the eighties and early nineties. We should go there now.
Students should go there, get into the buses setting off for Barinitas, for Parapara, etc, distribute the leaflets, get off to the next bus. You just need to photocopy the information.
Students should never again go back to Sambil or Altamira to make their point. They need to go to the people who are suffering the most and do not have good sources of information.
I wrote this:
http://desarrollosostenibleparavenezuela.blogspot.com/2009/11/contrarestar-al-chavismo-caracas-es.html
Hugo still gives some people the impression he cares for them in the countryside because we don’t get there (admittedly, it is very difficult now, we have no money, the thugs attack us, etc)
November 12, 2009 at 10:41 am
These are facts that need to be publicized among the Venezuelans who have been waiting for decent housing since 1999, for example, the victims of the “tragedia” in Vargas, among others. I bet that simple flyers distributed in the barrios throughout the country would help a great deal in making his blind followers “see the light.”
November 12, 2009 at 8:57 am
Well, I’d say Hugo will prefer exile in the Dominican Republic then. Malian girls are beautiful and Malians have great music, but at the end Hugo needs to speak Spanish and feel the Latin touch.
November 12, 2009 at 8:54 am
Sorry, I meant 100 HOUSES. Venezuela built one school and 100 houses, but more of everything will come, inmshachavez.
There are some other details there, but I may translate the whole thing in Spanish when I have more time
November 12, 2009 at 8:49 am
…and Montecristi (D.R.)
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=85847
November 12, 2009 at 8:38 am
This is outrageous.
November 12, 2009 at 8:31 am
Maybe Chavez is creating places for he and his followers to go when his revolution vaporizes. Chavez will need housing for his supporters and the Cubans also. The houses in background look about right.
November 12, 2009 at 7:18 am
Wao, wao! Mali is indeed much poorer than Venezuela, but
1) it comes out in
http://venezuela-europa.blogspot.com/2009/09/mapping-corruption.html
as being much less corrupt than the Bolivarian republic
2) it is a very safe country
I am happy we can help poorer people, but we are building school there even if there are so few schools in Venezuela. Here in French
http://www.malikounda.com/nouvelle_voir.php?idNouvelle=21640
Supposedly 100 out of 866 were made “in the context of the Venezuelan cooperation” and cost 1750000000 F Fca.
They named a square Simón Bolívar
What are the conditions of payment in Venezuela for social housing now?
This
http://www.maliweb.net/category.php?NID=50884
says Hugo is offering the construction of another school, Simón Rodríguez.
And here
http://www.primature.gov.ml/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=2985
they talk about our Hugo proposing also a line of credit to Malian banks and the opening of a Venezuelan bank there. He promised also to build a new lot of houses (on top of the 100 above) and said he foresees to come back in some months to “accelerate” the projects (I suppose he cannot trust his generals so he has to see that what he says is done)
Last but not least: Hugo targets 3 countries in the sub region to make of them “models of exploitation in mining resources: Mali, Mauritania
and Niger. He is very interested in the immense potentials these neighbouring countries have but understands Mali should be his starting point due to its geographic position in the sub region (???????????)
Then they say he is interested in many things, among them agriculture not being the least. Then “when he receivered president Touré this Sunday in a luxurious hotel of Porlamar, in the Island of Margarita, where he had gone for the African-South American summit, he had a map to better understand the rivers Senegal and Niger. His curiosity went from the source of those rivers to the modes of exploitation of irrigated lands to the agriculture potentials offered by the Niger river. Hugo chavez, who did not hide his sympathy for Russia, estimates that that country can help us considerably to develop our agriculture”….
The guy is excited about being the developer of the whole Third World, with his little maps and his many promises.